#051 - Write to Invite — Rewiring Patterns for Design Leadership with Anagha Deshmukh

What if one of the most powerful tools for design leadership isn’t another strategy — but a pen and a page?

In this mesmerizing episode of Beyond Interior Design, Marc Müskens talks with Anagha Deshmukh, creative facilitator and reflective-practice expert, about how writing can rewire the subconscious patterns that hold designers back from achieving their highest potential.

Together, they explore how curiosity, emotion, and awareness merge into a kind of creative alchemy — helping you overcome blocks, dissolve limiting beliefs, and lead with purpose.

You’ll discover:
• How emotions and subconscious patterns influence creativity, wellbeing, and business growth.
• Why “if you write, you invite” — and how writing sharpens intuition and clarity.
• How to surface innate talents and transform self-doubt into design confidence.
• Practical steps to unlock awareness and integrate reflection into your daily process.

This conversation reveals the magic of writing — how words can amplify every skill in your life and reconnect you to the five pillars of the Beyond Interior Design Blueprint©: Participation, Purpose, Principles, Process, and Potential.

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Anagha: Something very profound here. Listen carefully. Principles matter the most because literally, principles are your values. A very wise businessman. Ivan Meisner taught me this. He said, values come before business plan.

[00:00:23] Marc: Welcome back to Beyond Interior Design the club to design with intention and grow it vision to attract the right clients and the projects you really want. And we are not just transforming spaces. You know, together we are shaping the future of your interior design business. And if you are an interior designer running your own studio, you are not just a creative, you are a strategist, a decision maker, a leader.

[00:00:50] Marc: And let's be honest, that leadership part isn't always easy. Maybe you felt blocked without knowing why, and maybe you find yourself stuck in patterns. Overgiving. Doubting. Hesitating, or maybe deep down you know where you're capable of and that's more, but something keeps pulling the brake. That's exactly what today's episode is about.

[00:01:13] Marc: My guest is Anna Gdes, mug, founder of Power Scripts and handwriting and leadership strategist who's worked with CEOs, founders leadership teams over 26 countries, and with a background in engineering and MBA and more than 24 years of Fortune 500 leadership experience. She brings together strategic clarity and deep personal transformation.

[00:01:36] Marc: Ana guy helps decode the invisible patterns that hold us back. The sub subconscious wiring that shapes how we lead, speak, creates and connects. And here's where it gets interesting. Not with hours of mindset coaching, but with something as unexpected as your handwriting. Yes. We'll go there because what's most personal is often what's most powerful in a world full of trends and templates.

[00:02:06] Marc: Reconnecting with who we are might just be the most transformational thing you can do for your studio. So here's the is. Ook. 

[00:02:15] Anagha: Thank you, mark. Thank you for having me on the show. I'm very excited to do this with someone as fun as you. 

[00:02:21] Marc: Thank you. Well, yeah, we had a very cool, uh, first conversation when we first met.

[00:02:26] Marc: I've never heard of you before, but I was so intrigued. I was like, she has to be in my podcast. So I'm very glad that you reached out to me. Before we dive in, could you share a bit about your background, Onaga, where your journey started and how it led to do the work you're already doing today? 

[00:02:42] Anagha: Yes, of course.

[00:02:43] Anagha: My journey goes back way to my childhood, so my grandfather. Actually goes back all the way to his time. His handwriting was beautiful and the British used to display his work and say, these are the best practices in handwriting. They used to display his papers. Back then there were no typewriters, uh, or not very popular devices that could type all over.

[00:03:08] Anagha: So people used to still use handwriting quite a bit. And the British. Always took pride in the way you write and in English. And that's why they showed his best papers and they were displayed on the walls of their, of their offices. 

[00:03:22] Marc: Wow. So you were actually, it was, it was almost kind of the first graphic designers that there were real craftsmanship.

[00:03:28] Anagha: Yes, exactly. And then when I was born, I lived with my grandparents for the first few years of my life, and my grandfather was my favorite person, still is my favorite person. And then later on my mom came and picked me up from my grandparents and we separated out. So he lived in one state and I lived in another state, but he always wrote letters to me, and those letters were so beautiful.

[00:03:50] Anagha: I still have them. The writing is so perfect. And in the letters also he wrote to me about handwriting. So there is where my love for handwriting started. Truly. The more facts he told me about handwriting, the more I tried to bring them into my handwriting. Then as I grew up, I went to a convent school, so obviously I got great training on how to write English in cursive, et cetera.

[00:04:14] Anagha: And then I went to engineering school and that is where really, really my profound love of, uh, handwriting showed up. So I discovered I am not a very left brain person. I'm a right brain person. I'm not very numbers and math oriented, but yet I am an engineering school. So. So what I did is I used this hand, uh, brain coordination, this fact where when you write anything, it is recorded in your brain, automatically recorded in your brain.

[00:04:45] Anagha: You never forget it. So what I did is for my four years of engineering, right before our exams, we used to get one month of break to study all the examination the subjects. What I used to do is I would buy all the best pens and I also had a. Collection over the years of fountain pens and I would buy the best quality paper, and then I would go buy all these textbooks and the question papers from the previous years, you could purchase them back then.

[00:05:14] Anagha: So they were not on the internet. You had to go to the stores and buy them. So I went to every store, two, three stores. Oh, I want this question paper from so and so, yours collected them, brought them home. And then I brought them home, and I wrote down the answers, looking at studying the textbooks. I wrote down the answers to all these questions from previous years.

[00:05:35] Anagha: And so I was well prepared for my exam just by writing down the answers to these questions, right? And I remembered everything. So I was not a reader, you know, I, I didn't read a textbook and remember, instead I wrote down the answers. After my fourth year of engineering, it so happened that I got a scholarship to come to the US to pursue my master's in electrical engineering.

[00:05:59] Anagha: It happened very sudden, so I took all these notes that I had when I was leaving for the US and gave it to somebody. I don't remember who it was in our college, the junior uh, students, and said, you know what, these are, this is your Bible. You don't have to go and study five textbooks. I've already done it for you.

[00:06:19] Anagha: Take these notes, study it, it'll be good. And I didn't put much thought into it, I just gave her all the notes. And after 10 to 15 years and I moved to the US right after that to do my electrical engineering, I started working in the US and I worked for Cummins then. Which is an engineering firm, but they had also sponsored my education and as I worked with them, some women started coming to me and reaching out to me from my engineering college and they, I'm talking about, you know, 10, 12 years after and they said, are those your notes?

[00:06:52] Anagha: We came to know that through your cousins or someone that these are your notes here. And then I came to know they were in the library. Somebody had photocopied them and the whole class was using these notes. Whoa. And they started asking me, do you know the science of handwriting? Do you know what this means?

[00:07:06] Anagha: Do you know what that means? And I was already studying handwriting as a hobby, but I started pursuing it more and more. And you know, really thinking about what does that mean and why, why is it so perfectly written? Why is the slope like this? So I started studying my own handwriting and I started learning about the science of handwriting.

[00:07:22] Anagha: Then I worked in corporate America. Meanwhile, I was working in corporate America. I had two children. I have, uh, right now my sons are 18 and 15, and I started discovering that, you know, there is a lot of stress in this. Corporate environment, no matter what company you go to, no matter what board meeting you go to, no matter what the culture and the mission says, there is a lot of stress, especially to these executives who are preparing right before the board meetings or who have a.

[00:07:50] Anagha: A lot of responsibility for finances. These women are not going home and taking care of their children. They're actually crunching numbers and crunching numbers right before these, uh, these board meetings. And so what's really the root cause here? What's causing all this? The pattern is the same in all these organizations.

[00:08:07] Anagha: The leaders are stressed. The moms don't get time with their children. The dads don't. They, you know, even at a soccer game, they're still looking at their text messages and they're still stressed. They're not participating with all their heart. What's going on here? 

[00:08:21] Marc: You know, you are describing the, the, the daily life of some interior designers here, right?

[00:08:25] Marc: As I told you in the introduction, they are on every seat because most of the interior designers are, they have their own studio. They work alone. Maybe they have a small team or some other interior designers or bookkeeper or a phone service. But most of the time, that's a little bit it. So you are in every chair in your own.

[00:08:41] Marc: Company or business, right? That comes with a lot of stress and you have to sacrifice a lot and you are, can be on a a lot of pressure because you're running all the departments. 

[00:08:50] Anagha: Well said, mark. That is exactly the same story in every industry. No matter what industry you go to, what organization you go to, small business, big business, we all carry that stress and that stress really translates to health issues.

[00:09:04] Anagha: And we don't even know about it. We don't even know what's underlying here. We don't know what's causing it. So what I did really is I looked to the root cause, try to identify what's causing this, you know, what really is causing the stress? What is causing these. Late evenings that you're working, what is causing these, uh, meetings, after meetings, after meetings?

[00:09:24] Anagha: Why do you have to meet 10 times to make a small decision? What is the root cause? And I really found out these are subconscious patterns that have been programmed in your mind, through your childhood, through your school, through the culture, your family values, your surroundings that you work in, the podcast that you listen to, who you hang out with.

[00:09:46] Anagha: All these people are making some imprints on your subconscious mind, and that is really what's driving these patterns, and they're deep seated in your brain. So what I started doing here is I started uncovering those unseen patterns and in a very scientific way, which is literally documented in Harvard and in some institutes in Italy.

[00:10:10] Anagha: It's all scientific. I started deciphering this for leaders and not just deciphering what's holding them back, but handwriting holds the power to fix it. And that's where the power lies of the science, where not just will you uncover, but you'll. An ability to fix all these patterns, and you will see very speedily your life changes, your relationships, change your health issues.

[00:10:38] Anagha: You know, I've worked with some people who were in a motorcycle accident and two years they had shoulder pain and they couldn't work on their designs, and in two days their shoulder pain was gone using handwriting exercises. 

[00:10:50] Marc: So hand handwriting can cure things at very even very fast. 

[00:10:55] Anagha: Absolutely. 

[00:10:56] Marc: That sounds really magical.

[00:10:57] Marc: Well, you told me of course, when we first met that, that there is more and you proved it and I was like, okay, this is magical. We are going to find it out later together because I want you as a listener to experience this as well. If you're now listening and thinking, well wait where round we talking about entrepreneurship, a leadership and, and interior design, and building a solid foundation for your interior design studio.

[00:11:18] Marc: Yes, we were. But here's a twist. Sometimes the biggest breakthrough zone happen the way you expect. They can start with a pencil. And recently while I was on holiday, uh, I was in the mini clip doing crafts with my boys. They are, uh, eight and 10 right now. And there came a girl on primary school and she told me we don't really learn how to write anymore at, in primary school.

[00:11:41] Marc: They don't teach it anymore. A part of me thought, yes, I get it. Eh, we are living in a digital world. Maybe it's not needed anymore. Maybe it's a waste of time. But then again, there is something about handwriting, eh, about the movement, the ric skills, the, the, the, the rhythm, uh, about seeing how thoughts take shape in your hand.

[00:12:00] Marc: It's so. Personal, so authentic, so physical. It's not just writing, it's connecting with yourself. So take us deeper into your handwriting. What does it tell us about handwriting? Can it reveal what kind of interior designer you are? 

[00:12:16] Anagha: Absolutely, yes. Great question. So handwriting is literally a printout of your brain if you have to find out everything that is going on in your brain.

[00:12:26] Anagha: Just look at anyone's handwriting, it can reveal over a hundred traits very accurately. Handwriting never lies. So even though people say, no, no, no, that's not right, actually it is. It's just a pattern that they don't know about that exists in their brain or in their subconscious mind. So handwriting is a printout of the brain, but the beauty.

[00:12:46] Anagha: Is that just like through the brain, the hand was given a signal to write this same way through the hand. You can reverse program these patterns in your brain. That's where the beauty lies and speedily. You can change things for you in your business. That is how I help businesses propel forward. Just by changing the way you think, and it is very speedy, more than anything that I have seen, and that is why I dedicate all my efforts into this.

[00:13:16] Anagha: So what you will see is that in our health, everything in our health is caused due to emotions. You know, good health, bad health, diseases like cancer, dementia, all these. The root causes were some kind of emotion that was implanted into us through our subconscious patterns. These same emotions are causing disease in your body and the same emotions are causing the whole back or the slowdown in your business.

[00:13:45] Anagha: So it is very important for you to find out what are those patterns that even you don't know of that could cause you disease, or that is slowing down your business, or that is damaging your relationships. Don't waste time. 'cause as soon as you know half the battle is won, you know you are aware.

[00:14:04] Anagha: Awareness brings 50% of the battle is won and you know that this is what's happening again and again. This is why I am losing those clients, or this is why that design was so hard for me to do. You will start learning about yourself and then the other half of the battle we win through programming our brain with handwriting exercises and you'll see.

[00:14:25] Anagha: When you do handwriting exercises, everything falls into place and your frequencies increase. When your frequencies increase, everything that is meant to happen automatically happens. And I'm not talking about woo woo here. You know, it's very science-based frequency. Our body has thoughts and they're generated in cells, and then every cell has some energy there.

[00:14:47] Anagha: All energy has frequency. So what you are doing with handwriting, basically. In one line is you are increasing your frequency at higher frequencies. You don't have these lower emotions. At higher frequencies, you attract more clients at higher frequencies, you get more creative ideas for interior design.

[00:15:06] Anagha: At higher frequencies, you operate with higher principles and values, and that is why your business starts just flourishing in a matter of weeks of starting to doing these exercises and really finding out what's holding you back. 

[00:15:22] Marc: I can relate to that. If I look back to handwritten notes, you see a different character in your handwriting.

[00:15:28] Marc: It's like, oh, this was a very messy phase of the year, or something like that. These weeks where I was really struggling, ah, this week I was in a wonderful flow. Look at my handwriting. It became, it was like another person was writing. I think everybody can relate to that and will recognize that, that it's not always the same.

[00:15:45] Marc: But tell me, what can handwriting reveal about you that even the big, famous, well-known personality tests can't, what's the difference? 

[00:15:53] Anagha: That's a great question. That's where the power lies. It reveals things that computer-based tests cannot tell you about, for example. Self-esteem or procrastination, or are you paranoid or do you have issues getting along with people?

[00:16:09] Anagha: Are you a generous person? Are you generous with money or are you generous with your time? So these things cannot be revealed by computer-based tests, and that is why the science is used. So popularly now, and even Wall Street talks about it in the hiring process. So we are using handwriting. It cannot be fooled, like, you know, you could change a computer based test, but you cannot change your handwriting even though you try to, you won't be able to.

[00:16:37] Anagha: So you reveal these traits. That could cause slowdown for organizations. So they're using it to hire people because it gives you that deeper insight that no other test can tell. So you can never tell whether the person has a lack of integrity or not from those computer based tests. Yeah, and all these red flags are important.

[00:16:55] Anagha: You catch them early on. That is why you hire. Right? And this is how you can hire for organizational fit. You know, in the age of ai, all these businesses will be. At a threat, my business is not gonna be different from the others. In this age of ai, you can use handwriting to differentiate your business by hiring for organizational fit for the values of your business, 

[00:17:23] Marc: but not the skills.

[00:17:24] Anagha: Not the skills, no. Prioritize the values always because in the long run, in the age of ai, that is what's gonna help you differentiate your business and stand out and not be vulnerable to the data that's out there. 

[00:17:39] Marc: Big insights already. Uh, as you know, we educate our beyond the terrorism clip members, the five pillars to discover their, what we call their beyond layer, their magical, authentic, unique, beyond layer that you have to communicate with your clients too.

[00:17:53] Marc: They will choose you. Simple as that. Then you attract the right clients. You can do better projects and you feel fulfilled. It's a proven framework. It's the foundation of a studio that thrives and it consists of five pillars. It's one participation, two purpose. Three principles, four process, and five is potential.

[00:18:13] Marc: And we developed a test to find out what type of design you really are and how to build a studio that reflects your full potential. We talked about this before, uh, Anika, you know, and the most magical part is you can actually see that just from someone's handwriting. Which pillar you're lacking of, which pillar you're really good at, or that is authentically or by nature, and that you need to improve or that you can improve to go to the next chapter in your life and in your business.

[00:18:41] Marc: So for, for the people that want to know more, check out the website beyond the the design dot clip, there's a. A free webinar too, or you could do the free test. That will only take a few minutes. This might show you the missing piece of your business. We are going to do an exercise, uh, Annika on the five pillars, because I think people are right now, like, okay, uh, I heard a lot about handwriting.

[00:19:02] Marc: Now I want proof. Can she, can she analyze my hand reading? So, um, you mentioned handwriting can propel your business forward. Can you tell us about that? 

[00:19:13] Anagha: Absolutely. And let me throw some more light on these five pillars and which part of your subconscious mind contributes to each of these pillars. So let's talk about participation first.

[00:19:25] Anagha: That is your first pillar. So participation, there are three things that are in your subconscious mind. That's kind of the formula to participation. First is, can you connect with people, right? The connection part. The second one is communication. Okay? First is connect and even understand them. The second part is do you wanna communicate with them?

[00:19:48] Anagha: Are you comfortable? Are the thoughts flowing in, so communicate? And the third part is enthusiasm. Are you enthusiastic, like Mark, you know, you wanna say more? Or are you just bored and you, you're not enthusiastic, you just want your day to be ended? These are the three parts. Again, connection, communication, and enthusiasm.

[00:20:09] Anagha: And these can be revealed. And also programmed using your handwriting. So the second pillar you talked about is purpose, right? Yeah. And everyone wants to pause and think, what is my purpose here? What is my purpose in this lifetime? And you will be amazed that your skills, your innate talents. Are programmed in your mind when you are very young and you some are maybe even coming through you to you from generations to generations.

[00:20:39] Anagha: So have you explored what your innate talents are? That is one. The second part to purpose is really finding out what environment has programmed your thinking. Did your parents tell you that you have to be an engineer? And that was not along your purpose. You need to unwire these things that were programmed in your mind so that you can bring your purpose to the surface, and the moment you start living in your purpose, everything seems to fall aside and you are supercharged and you're going fast, and your business is thriving.

[00:21:13] Marc: So I can imagine, for me, it was a childhood dream to become an interior designer. It was practically when I was 10 years old, or even when you look at my scrapbooks, they're full of floor floor plans and mood boards. It was like, okay, this is my destiny. Yeah. It's literally Wow. Yeah. It's amazing how that can determine your life and I, I always.

[00:21:32] Marc: I'm pretty sorry for the people that don't know where to go in life because I cannot imagine that you are at school or studying and you have no clue what to do in life. But on the other hand, I know a lot of designers that choose really wisely and purposeful, okay, I'm going to end my job. This was life, this corporate life, or this.

[00:21:48] Marc: I was an intern or whatever. I skip a job and I will become an interior designer. So that's an a very bold choice. But there you come up. Did you always wanted to do it, but your parents wouldn't allow you to go to an art academy or design academy because they thought you need to be a manager or a doctor.

[00:22:04] Marc: Yeah. A lot of bigger wise from your. Surrounding and for your environment. Yes. So that's for purpose. That's your bigger why. Yeah. 

[00:22:11] Anagha: Mm-hmm. And the principles. The next one is principles. Yeah. And don't take this one very lightly. People don't understand what this means actually for the profitability of their business and the success of their business.

[00:22:24] Anagha: So let me tell you something very profound here. Listen carefully. Principles matter the most because literally, principles are your values. A very wise businessman. Ivan Meisner taught me this. He said, values come before business plan, and this is his key to success. And since then I have taken it to heart.

[00:22:46] Anagha: And principles are really what your values are. For example, for our business, who, whoever we hire, we look at, if they share our values, we look at if they have respect, integrity, and humility. These are our three. Non uncompromisable values of our business. We never, ever hire anyone who's not respecting others or doesn't have integrity or is not humble.

[00:23:09] Anagha: We look for these three things before we look for skills, and I'm encouraging you to deeper look into what your values are With handwriting, we can tell you what your values are as well, but I, I'm pretty sure you know what your values are by now. So in a business, why is your business not succeeding or why are you hiring the wrong people?

[00:23:29] Anagha: Why are you spending time training them and then they leave? Because they do not fit your value system. They do not fit in your principles skills. Come later. You can teach skills, but if you have the right values, these are the people who will help you differentiate your business. In the age of ai, these are the people who you will enjoy working with.

[00:23:49] Anagha: Who. Thrive in your business and who will make your business thrive. So take this very seriously. Look into what your principles are and before your business plan or before laying out who your target segment is, first lay out what are your business principles, and according to that, attract the people who work for you.

[00:24:08] Anagha: And even. For your clients. Don't go to everyone. Go to the ones who have the same principles as you. 

[00:24:15] Marc: Yeah. I think there's the key. I, I knew it was very important principles, but now you're really empowering it way more and like, whoa, this, this is, this is why principles is so powerful. Because a lot changed when we communicated our principles because from that moment on, we had a kind of guideline how to.

[00:24:31] Marc: Communicate with each other, the impact we're going to create, what we value, what we both value, where they believe, what you believe, or they want to believe what you believe, that's also fine, but you need to be on the same page. The result was very smooth projects, beautiful communication, so you will attract the right clients and you will attract your right team as well.

[00:24:52] Marc: The same with podcast guests. Please continue with the, with the fourth one. 

[00:24:56] Anagha: Yes. The fourth one is process. 

[00:24:58] Marc: Yeah. It's a boring one for lots of creatives. Yes. 

[00:25:01] Anagha: So process is very important. But I would encourage you to understand in your team there will be diversity of thought. You know, it could be diversity of people and their looks, et cetera.

[00:25:13] Anagha: I'm not talking about that. For you to be very efficient with process, you need to find out who those members on your team are, who have process oriented thinking. Okay. There are a few thinking patterns, some are process oriented, so they go step one, step two, step three, step four. You need that in in interior design a lot because you can't do step A and then realize, oh my gosh, there was something else that needed to be done.

[00:25:39] Anagha: Yeah, so. Your people could have multiple thinking patterns, and it's important for you to identify the right person who has process oriented thinking in your organization so you can bring that person to review these designs or audit these designs, or even look at how you're designing and your design process.

[00:25:58] Anagha: What does it mean? There are other kinds of thinking patterns like analytical. Analytical thinking patterns. What they do is they weigh the pros and the cons. The yes and the nos, and they're sometimes first looking at the cup half empty because they want to know what could go wrong, but it's really not that they're negative.

[00:26:19] Anagha: People, they're just doing pros and cons. So there are multiple kinds of thinking patterns. These two are the most profound ones. It's important for you to identify on your team, who are the process oriented thinkers, and then you can give them the heavy lifting for process. 

[00:26:34] Marc: I can imagine that of course we have, uh, almost a quarter million, uh, of interior design professionals in our community, and I met a few people that are really into the processes and analytical.

[00:26:45] Marc: They will attract their own clients, but they will lack on other. Pillars and you will see it in the designs because yes, they are fixing stuff. They are great building managers and well, it's, everything is going correct, but if you look at the designs or the emotional part or the connecting part, something is off.

[00:27:03] Marc: And so if you want to step up, maybe you are the process guy or women. You need somebody in your team who's taking care of the other levels. 

[00:27:11] Anagha: Exactly. That's the root cause of why so many businesses, uh, fail. Because you know, if you're only design oriented, you don't understand process or the analytics part, then the artists are painting and painting and nobody's purchasing their art.

[00:27:25] Anagha: And they're thinking one day it's gonna happen, one day it's gonna happen. But really what's lacking is that kind of thinking. So you always want to fill in that gap once you understand that that is a gap or. That is your strength. You know, you wanna bring in a holistic team that can, someone can think analytical, some can think process, some can think about the numbers of the business too.

[00:27:44] Marc: So let's dive into the fifth pillar and then we can't wait for the exercise. Uhhuh. So what is it? Potential. 

[00:27:50] Anagha: Potential? This is the most powerful one. Let me tell you. Everyone has potential. Nobody should say that, oh, I don't have potential. You know this. This is not like I'm just an average person. No, it's not like that.

[00:28:02] Anagha: You just have not discovered what your potential is. 

[00:28:06] Marc: Exactly. 

[00:28:07] Anagha: That is the very powerful thing that you need to know. What. Truly are your innate talents. But here's the magic. When you go to organizations, they're giving you more and more training on, you know, getting along well with people. This, that you can add more skills, but it's not gonna take you that far.

[00:28:25] Anagha: What's gonna really take you far is. Finding out what's holding you back. You know, so if you cut those chains that are holding you back, you will go much further, even if something is lacking, even if some skill is lacking, you know, what is your potential, what is your purpose? And then you cut off the chains that are holding you back and zoom, your train goes so fast, right?

[00:28:45] Anagha: That is what potential truly is. And. I know you're very excited to do this exercise, so we will do it with our viewers right now, and we will give them a short exercise to find out what is holding them back. 

[00:28:58] Marc: Yes. Wonderful. Because yes, we urge you. It's science-based. It's proven, and there are so many people who've shared their powerful results.

[00:29:05] Marc: But now, yeah, I want to feel it for myself and for everyone who's listening, it's time to experience it too. So we are going to do a writing exercise, so whether you're at home, at work, or on the move. So don't listen further if you are not in. The position to do this exercise, you don't want to spoil the end result.

[00:29:22] Marc: So, uh, yeah. But if you're listening ready for it, take your favorite pencil, a book, paper, whatever. 

[00:29:28] Anagha: So here's the exercise. Take your pen and paper or rather your pencil in this case, because we are all designers, you're on the call and write down three sentences that describe your dream project. Write down where it is, why you wanna do it, or what it is.

[00:29:45] Anagha: I'm 

[00:29:45] Marc: pretty sure people will know it. So what is it? What is your absolute ultimate dream project? What's your, your, your awesome client as we call it? Is it a, is it a hotel? Is it a, the, the, the, the next new office of a big brand? Is it a shop from your favorite brand? Is it a residential building, holiday homes?

[00:30:09] Marc: You know, you know what's on your own bucket list, so write it down. What is it? What is your dream project? Where is it located, and why is it that you really, really want to do this? Three or four sentences. That's enough. Get the results out of this experiment. I will give you a few seconds. If you're not ready or you, or you have to think about it, then um, pause the podcast.

[00:30:32] Marc: Take your time to write it down and when it feels you are ready, then come back, put play again, and otherwise, uh, we're continuing here. All right. So Anga, tell us if we're looking at what we wrote down, these three or four sentences, what can you tell about the handwriting? We don't have a visual, so we are going to explain where we need to look at, right?

[00:30:57] Anagha: Yes. Uh, take your pencil and circle the letter. T, T as in tiger. Circle the letter T in your writing there, 

[00:31:07] Marc: the letter T. 

[00:31:09] Anagha: Yes. Now. Circle some I, letter I with the dot. Yep. And circle some of your Gs. Letter G for Gary. G for God. 

[00:31:25] Marc: All right. These three, the T, d, I and G. 

[00:31:29] Anagha: Correct. Now, let's look at this. Let's find out.

[00:31:33] Anagha: See where the T-bar is. Is it on the stem placed way high at the stem, or is it lower after halfway down the stem? If it is lower, what that means is that you have low self-esteem. What does low self-esteem mean? 

[00:31:50] Marc: If it's low, you have low self-esteem. 

[00:31:53] Anagha: Correct. So self-esteem is really a formula of self-confidence and self-love.

[00:31:59] Anagha: And when I say self-love, there's nothing selfish about it. Self-esteem translates into business. When you are selling or you're talking about your services, does yourself have the self-esteem to even say that my business, this is my business. I stand for this. This is how I am different than others. Do you believe in yourself?

[00:32:20] Anagha: Right. This is very important in business. If you have great self-esteem, you can confidently represent your business. You can confidently talk about what you're really good at or what value you can add for the client, and how you can know this is by the letter T, where the T bar is placed on the T. If it's way up high, then you have good self-esteem.

[00:32:40] Anagha: If it's lower, your self-esteem is something is lacking there, either the confidence part or the self-love part, and how you will see it is. You typically have trouble accepting compliments when somebody says, oh, wow, this is a wonderful design. And you'll say, oh yeah, I just, you know, this time it was good last time.

[00:33:00] Anagha: I'm, I'm getting better. I'm learning something like that. But if you have good self-esteem and somebody compliments you on your design, you will be able to take that compliment and feel good about yourself with it. And with the letter T you can tell 28 other traits. So today we are just gonna look at self-esteem because it's the easiest one to look at from letter T.

[00:33:20] Anagha: And once you know what is lacking, you know half the battle is won. So the next letter we are gonna look at is letter. I look at the dot on the top of the I. Where is that dot, is it landing right above the eye or is it a little towards the left, or is it a little towards the right? This will tell you how good you are at getting things done quickly.

[00:33:46] Anagha: Are you a procrastinator? Are you, you know, you are not very confident about the future? Are you waiting in the past? What's going on? The letter I determines how quickly you get your things done by where the.is placed on the top of the I. 

[00:34:04] Marc: Alright? Yes, 

[00:34:06] Anagha: yes. The next one is letter G. Your letter G should have a loop at the bottom.

[00:34:13] Anagha: Ideally it should be looped and the whole loop should complete and come back. All the way to the top. If your G is open and you're just drawing a line and leaving it open out there, you are leaving a lot of potential on the table out there. Mm-hmm. This also affects your finances and in finances. There is a way to attract finances, to repurpose those finances and invest them and also keep ongoing finances coming in.

[00:34:43] Anagha: Right. It's attracting. Ongoing part and then repurposing it to grow. These are three elements of the financials and your letter G. If you look at it, it's gonna contribute a lot to telling you how you are managing your finances and if there is more potential to make your finances better. 

[00:35:03] Marc: So close the loop.

[00:35:04] Anagha: Yes, close the loop. When you close the loop, it'll affect all areas of your life. You know, your relationships, your health, and also your finances. 

[00:35:13] Marc: If you are a listener listening right now, you did the exercise well, I dunno what to tell you, but I did it so I know the outcome. And it's confronting, it's mesmerizing, it's magical, it's, and you know how easy it might be to solve some issues on this side and to bring your pillows in balance so.

[00:35:35] Marc: Well, I would suggest find out at least in our, uh, beautiful quiz and test we created with the Beyond the TE Design report. It's on the website beyond the TE Design. Clap to find out your pillars and see how it connects with your handwriting and well, Anna Gas told you this can be heels very quickly. I'm doing handwriting actually, when I go to clients for my first prospect meeting, I send them a magazine.

[00:36:00] Marc: I have a handwritten note in it and they can. See a lot already about your character and, and it's a kind of very personal touch, so I do love that. How often he, do you hear people joke about the handwriting of doctors this terrible handwriting. 

[00:36:17] Anagha: They're in such a hurry, you know, their thinking is so fast.

[00:36:20] Anagha: So if you really wanna judge them on their handwriting and ask for a sample, typically we've seen that. They give a different sample. It's not these, you know, just the curves, but when they're thinking really fast, their handwriting is different when they're working with a client. And that's why the joke has become a doctor's handwriting.

[00:36:37] Anagha: But I have so many doctors who we work with and they just have great handwriting. You ask them for a handwriting sample and they write a little different than when they write in the clinic. 

[00:36:46] Marc: Yeah. Yeah. That it looks like more like a heartbeat with some adults in it, and it's like, okay. Yes, 

[00:36:52] Anagha: yes. What was really funny is that, uh, speaking of doctors, we worked with a spine surgeon and we actually found out he has so much back pain.

[00:37:01] Marc: Well, you teach what you need the most, right? 

[00:37:03] Anagha: Yes. 

[00:37:03] Marc: Because that's, yeah. Practice what you preach. 

[00:37:06] Anagha: Yes. 

[00:37:06] Marc: You know, I, I mentor interior designers, but of course I get mentored too. And one quote, uh, that came up recently really stuck with me. It was like, if you write, you invite, what's your opinion on that one?

[00:37:20] Anagha: Wow. It's very profound and writing and inviting. It's got a lot to do with your frequencies, science-based. When you increase your frequency, you invite what you need exactly at that moment. So when you talk about manifestation, really that's what it is. You're increasing your frequency when you're writing.

[00:37:40] Anagha: Yeah. Right. Your neuromuscular pathways are working. It's like going to the gym. When you go to yoga, you're working on your body. When you go to the gym, you're literally, your mental gym is writing. So when you go to yoga, you feel so happy, right? It's like that when you write, you invite. By raising your frequency, the right things that you need.

[00:38:00] Marc: Alright. Yeah. People do know me because of my high energy, even in the mastermind sessions and the group coachings, they're like, how can you be so energetic? But it, it's just doing what you love, knowing what you love to do. So it comes with a lot of clarity and. As you told us, do what you do best, hire the rest.

[00:38:17] Marc: So thank you very much. Our goal with every episode is simple to leave you with something that makes it impossible for you to design the same way again. So my final question to you, uh, Ana guy, is this, what's the one truth or insight that could truly flipped the game for any interior designer listening right now?

[00:38:37] Marc: Annika, 

[00:38:38] Anagha: stop playing small. Find out what's holding you back. Release those chains and zoom away. Do not play small anymore. Do not waste time living a subpar life or having a subpar business. Find out what's slowing you down and go get it. 

[00:38:55] Marc: Thank you very much. 

[00:38:56] Anagha: Thank you, mark.

[00:39:01] Marc: If this conversation sparks something in you, uh, desire. Connection, curiosity. Then Mook is someone to follow. Check out beyond the Terra Design Club slash anga. You will also find the link in the episode description. Until next time, stay curious, stay creative, and remember. It's not just what you design, it's the impact you create.

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